There are five versions circulating:
1981 11 25 Detroit MI 147.26 AUD MC (Drew51-flambay) includes some crowd chat
1981 11 25 Detroit MI 137.11 AUD MC (JS-doctorzap-flambay)
1981 11 25 Detroit MI 137.49 AUD MC (PatF-Drew51-flambay)
1981 11 25 Detroit MI 115.47 AUD MC (mimymu-Drew51-flambay) does not include encores
1981 11 25 Detroit MI 137.09 AUD 1st (Drew51#2-flambay)
this is the last of these: (Drew51#2-flambay).
The last time this show was posted here in any version was by Adictedttull in March '11:
Frank Zappa 1981 11 25 - Cobo Hall, Detroit, MI MC Aud (JS Doctorzap)
That version has since been archived at zappateers.
Nothing on this date has been commercially released, according to Information Is Not Knowledge (IINK): http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/index.html
Nothing has been altered or changed. The .ffp data are consistent with that on the zappateers site. The original setlist remains in the download folder. Because of the show's length, if you are predisposed to still use CD-Rs, this show will require 2.
I have include 2 samples below as well as, for your entertainment (even if you choose to bypass grabbing this show), the "Detroit Farewell."
Later, I may be uploading another version of the four left above later.
Frank Zappa
Cobo Hall
Detroit, MI USA
November 25, 1981
Source: Alternate source #4: Drew51 1st gen tape complete with fills from Drew51 Master tape. Lineage: 1st generation TDK AD-C90 normal bias cassettes > Nakamichi CR-7A cassette deck > Gina20 > Soundforge 7.0 (record, edits) > CD Wave > FLAC (level 8) > WAV > Soundforge 9 (speed correction, phase offset adjustments, minor clean-up around cuts, tracking, patching with fills source material) > TLH > FLAC (level 7) w/SBA. Taped by Unknown, transferred by Drew51, edited by Drew51 & flambay.
Fills from Drew51 MC source. Source: Master Audience cassettes. Equipment: Unknown model Sony portable w/ build-in mics. Lineage: Maxell UDS-I (HQ normal) Cassettes > Nakamichi CR-7A cassette deck > Gina20 > Soundforge 7.0 (record, edits) > CD Wave > FLAC (level 8) > WAV> Soundforge 9 (speed correction, tracking, extracting patches and merging with main source). Taped by Drew51, transferred by Drew51, edited by Drew51 & flambay.
Frank Zappa - guitar, vocals
Ray White - guitar, vocals
Steve Vai - guitar
Tommy Mars - keyboards, vocals
Bobby Martin - keyboards, sax, vocals
Ed Mann - percussion
Scott Thunes - bass
Chad Wackerman - drums
01 (crowd/tuning)
02 Treacherous Cretins
03 Cosmik Debris
04 Montana
05 A Pound For A Brown (q: Uncle Meat, incl. Beethoven's 9th Symphony) - flaws/Drew51 MC patch (1:26-1:30), 2 minor flaws at 11:06 & 11:40 left untouched
06 Joe's Garage
07 Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?
08 Sharleena
09 Envelopes - tf/Drew51 MC patch (0:04-0:23)
10 Drowning Witch
11 What's New In Baltimore?
12 Moggio
13 We're Turning Again - tf/Drew51 MC patch (2:58-end)
14 Sinister Footwear - tf/Drew51 MC patch (0:00-1:09)
15 Stevie's Spanking
16 Cocaine Decisions - Drew51 MC patch (0:07-0:35)
17 Nig Biz
18 Doreen
19 Goblin Girl
20 Black Page #2
21 (encore break) - from Drew51 MC source, cuts in, no music missing
22 Broken Hearts Are For Assholes - switch back to main 1st gen source at 0:01
23 Tryin' To Grow A Chin
24 Strictly Genteel (q: "It's called Sofa !", Beethoven's 9th Symphony) - tf/Drew51 MC patches (2:14-3:00) and (6:01-end)
25 (encore break #2) - from Drew51 MC source
26 Bobby Brown - switch back to main 1st gen source at 0:08
27 Camarillo Brillo
28 Detroit Farewell (FZ ends show because someone throws a nickel at the stage)
Total time (patched version) = 137:09
Unpatched tracks (Drew51 1st gen source only) in separate subfolder (279 MB):
05 A Pound For A Brown (unpatched) - flaws/2 skips at 1:27 & 2 minor flaws at 11:05 & 11:38
09 Envelopes (unpatched) - tf/cut at 0:05
13 We're Turning Again (unpatched) - tf/cuts off
14 Sinister Footwear (unpatched) - tf/cuts in
16 Cocaine Decisions (unpatched) - cut at 0:08
22 Broken Hearts Are For Assholes (unpatched) - cuts in
24 Strictly Genteel (unpatched) - tf/cut at 2:15 , cuts off at end
26 Bobby Brown (unpatched) - cuts in
Total time (Drew51 1st gen source only) = 132:23
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